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Christie Pits Rink Profile

Built in 1978
Compressors: two 50 hp, makes 100 hp.
Current refrigeration system and boards installed in 2001

Opening: Nov.25, 2017
Closing: TBA

posted December 18, 2014

Rink change area: The rink has a large change room with huge windows -- a great view of the whole park, including the rink. There's a woodstove inside the rink change area, although it's hardly ever used. Good supply of benches. Skate-friendly rubber flooring throughout. Used to have a daily snack bar run by youth. Change room is often not available: doesn't open until 12 noon on weekdays.

Staff: One rink building attendant, one rink guard.

Helmet use: Not enforced for shinny players - only leisure skaters under six

Cityrinks.ca position paper: are helmets overrated for concussions? Should shinny hockey players be forced to wear a helmet?

Maintenance: Done by a flying squad, which comes 1-2 times a day. When the zamboni is late and there's snow on the ice, staff have green ice shovels available and they work with shinny players to clean off the snow manually -- they say it works well and everyone helps.


Comments about this rink: e-mail us at [email protected].


warm woodstove

Rink Diary

2017 - 2018

Feb.17, 2018

11.30 am: a dad and three kids

Feb.16, 2018

7.45 pm, 14 people.

Feb.15, 2018

1.45 pm rink empty. 5.45 pm, 9 people.

Feb.9,2018

Today was the second Essex School visit with skate lending by CELOS. This time we were allowed to use the kitchen and the counter, and that worked much better. It snowed the whole afternoon and no one ever came to take the zamboni out of its new garage and clean the ice, but the kids had fun skating in the snow anyway.


four classes came from Essex School

skates lent out from the unused community kitchen

so much snow on the ice that kids used to skate aids to push it to the side

There were two staff people on site, and even though there were a lot of kids who needed help with skate lacing, the staff stayed in their office and chatted with each other. When asked whether their training actually prohibited them from helping when a class of little kids comes, they said they are allowed to help, but not required to do so as part of the job. They were helpful if a kid came to them to ask, but they made no effort to circulate in the change room to offer help. Very strange to see able-bodied paid staff idle while so much help is needed.

The staff said the woodstove is never used, and in fact it was very dusty. They weren't sure that it even works or how to "turn it on."


wood stove donated in 1998

cobwebs on the stovepipe
 
Feb.8, 2018

woodstove not used

Some more questions about the woodstove, to the city rinks supervisor:

1. who is tasked with giving the "thumbs up" that you say is needed to use the wood stove at Christie Rink?
2. When was the work order put in, to ask?
Please give me the timeline.
Is that also why the identical Dufferin Rink wood stove has not been cleared for use this whole rink season, despite a very cold winter?

Feb.7, 2018

A query about signage to 311 brought this message, from the citywide rink supervisor: "I have asked that they confirm the posted location schedule is on the windows." A follow-up question about the use of the wood stove brought this: "I was curious about the stove when I first saw it but was told there were issues with the use of it. Until we received a thumbs up on its safety I wouldn't be able to use it."

Feb.6, 2018

At 12.20 pm the rink is locked and there's no signage to tell when it opens. There are no skaters, either.


rink change room locked, no signage

no skaters, on a beautiful day
 
Jan.31, 2018

The first school visit trying out skate lending at Christie Rink.


lots of kids from Essex and Palmerston Schools

unused community kitchen

The unused kitchen has a counter with a roll-up barrier and a shelf that can be used for skate lending. However, the use of that room had not been cleared with management, so we had to put or skate bins on the ground out in the change room -- it was pretty chaotic. There's no scheduling person at the rink to book schools so that the classes don't all come at the same time. Plus the teachers have bring along scrounged equipment for those kids who don't have their own, and then there's the lacing of the skates, the finding of the helmets..... Even so, they did pretty well.

 
Jan.11, 2018

An item on Metro news, about Councillor Layton's proposal to ask City Council to ask the Parks Forestry and Recreation general manager to prepare a report on whether skate ending can happen at other city outdoor rinks besides the ones in Ward 18.

Jan.1, 2018

As promised on the schedule that's pinned up on the bulletin board, the rink change room is open. That's a first at this rink -- its change room/washrooms are often locked. Today there are two staff inside. Because of the cold, there are only 5 skaters, however.

Dec.28, 2017

holiday hockey skills class at minus 18, Dec.28, 2017

New Year's Day, 2018 - change room scheduled to be open, finally?

With the temperature at minus 18, a fully-booked holiday hockey class has only 6 kids in attendance, with three instructors. A man arrives on his bike, hockey stick tied along the frame. He gets on his phone to see where else might be a spot for shinny hockey.

There's no staff person inside, although parents watching their kids' class say that there was someone in the office, and then he left. There's a temporary bulletin board with holiday schedules -- good news! For the first time in years, it looks like the rink change area and washrooms will be open on New Year's Day.

Follow-up on skate lending: the city councillor for this rink, Councillor Layton, seems to have become the spokesperson for why no additional neighbourhood outdoor rinks can have skate lending.

His reasons (given to the West End Phoenix):

- Parks and Rec is underfunded, can't provide rink programming
- rink staff have to focus on safety, can't be distracted by skate lending
- he tried to get more funding by raising taxes but couldn't get support
- city staff "don't have the expertise to maintain skates so they don't become a liability" read more

In a Dec.27 tweet, Councillor Layton wrote "my responses to questions came from city staff."

Then he suggested that the issue might be taken to the Parks Committee: "after a more public examination, a discussion can often uncover solution we didn't know existed...."

 

Loaner skates at Wallace Rink, 2014
September 11, 2017

A letter was sent to the city councillor, offering a donation of a complete skate loan collection for this rink.

Our reasons:
* people love to borrow skates: newcomers, school classes, kids and youth who grew out of their skates
* we have 110 skates, 20 hockey sticks, 20 helmets to donate
* this kind of program has been done by city staff for 12 years at Dufferin Rink, 9 years at Wallace and Campbell -- lots of experienced staff, each one teach one
* staff often have time on their hands to lend skates and also to maintain skates
* the city has insurance that can cover this (the city is self-insured under $5 million anyway), but skate lending programs are rarely threatened with a claim if they do responsible skate maintenance.

Offer declined.

 

2016 - 2017

Nov.27, 2016

Nov.27 2016: 11.15 a.m. -- all ages shinny just ending

Nov.28 12.45 p.m. -- morning sun didn't melt the ice

There were very few benches inside but the building attendant said he's been asking for more.

Not many people there yet today, but all ages shinny was said to be enjoyable. Half a dozen fast players shared the ice with three kids, the big guys passing to the kids as well as dodging them.

Nov.26, 2017:

The rink is open.

Nov.22, 2016

The compressors are on and the rink looks clean except for one little pile of leaves.


 

Posts from earlier years

2015-2016

March 11, 2016

March 5, 2016: often empty even when not covered with water

The rink has been covered with water much of the past week or more. Almost no one comes to skate but it continues to be marked as open most of the time. The rink follows the March pattern -- even when it's not covered by water, most skaters stay away. So at 3.30 pm today, the rink finally closed for the season.

 
Jan.1 2016

As is so often the case at this rink, the rink change room was locked. On this busy holiday, a line of people had to sit on the ground to change from shoes to skates and back again. No washroom access either. Many other city rinks were fully open on New Year's Day -- why not Christie? The cost of putting in a minimum-wage building staff is very low.


lots of people skating

building locked

no ice maintenance either --but a fun snow pile on the ice
end of December

The header trench is closed and the fencing is gone. The ice seems to be pretty good despite the warm weather.

 
Dec.5 2015

The header trench is still open. The chemical toilet is is gone but the fences are up. But no sign of work being done. However the plant is running and the ice seems good. The building attendant was asked about the lack of any signage giving the rink hours and skating times, and he agreed it would be good to have something up, but said they didn't get anything yet. He also said that it was true the rink building was not open last weekend -- no one had been scheduled to work and besides, the ice had been poor.


header tench still open

snack bar closed

The city councillor, Mike Layton, sent word that he is planning their fifth annual Family Day skating party for February 15, and wants to arrange to get Randy's loaner skates for this event.

Nov.24 2015, 2 pm

fence and toilet stall for workers

Yesterday the compressors were on but today they were silent. There's a construction fence beside the rink, and the header trench is open. Troubles? No signs are posted, and the rink is supposed to open on Saturday.


open header trench, but no workers
Nov.28 2015

The rink did open, but at 4.30 the rink house is locked and there is no signage on the door telling anything about the schedule. Maybe Kim Brown, the recreation supervisor, didn't realize that she should staff the rink. Despite the nice design, there is a long history of poor service at this rink -- too bad.


4.30 Nov.28: rough ice, but it did open

no signage, and not open either

The header trench is still open but the rink is operating.

 

2014-2015

March 10, 12, 2015

This is one of the additional 12 rinks scheduled to stay open to March 22. The ice is pretty rough and most of the time there's no one skating.


March 10, 6 pm: girls playing hockey with a mom

March 12, 7.20 pm: rink door open but no skaters
 

A problem with the HOLIDAY HOURS: it appears on the city's rink information website/311 that almost all of the city's rinks will have their changerooms/washrooms locked on the three main holidays: Christmas Day, Boxing Day (yes!), and New Year's Day. You can skate on most of the rinks but you can't get your kids out of the cold to change their skates and you can't take them to the washroom. This is true for Christie Pits.

What's the message here -- "you should be drinking, not skating" -- ?

Dec.18 2014

Dec.18: a wrecked Pepsi vending machine

At 3 pm the rink change room is open -- two pleasure skaters out on the ice. The rink staff says that the building opens at 12 noon on weekdays, but he thinks that if a school class wanted to come, they could get the building unlocked. However, he says, not many school classes come, only occasionally.

There is a Pepsi vending machine against the wall, but it looks like it's been smashed in places -- there's no out-of-order sign but it seems like its dispensing days are over.

Dec.7 2014

Sunday afternoon caregiver-child skate

This rink opened on time and stayed open even throughout several days of warm weather a week ago. They have an unusual time slot on their schedule -- from 1 to 5 pm on Sundays it's "caregiver and child." In order to skate, you have to bring a child. It was well-attended and looked like a happy scene.

We were looking for the winter-time cafe, but the kitchen gate was locked and the building attendant said he hadn't heard that there would be a cafe at any point. Above the cafe there was an unusual painting of cartoon characters, perhaps to make the public area look friendly. However, the rink change room woodstove, donated by Dufferin Grove years ago for skaters to warm themselves, was blocked off by a desk and an office chair, an unimportant afterthought -- similar to other years.


community kitchen was shuttered as before

behind the stored furniture is the unused woodstove

cartoon characters with a bubble that says "we're glad you're here"- but no food and no fire

Views of the rink

shinny hockey at Christie Rink

the view from Christie Pits rink change-room


Christie Pits in 1923: five rinks! (Toronto Archives).
Click on picture to enlarge.

drainage problem--looks like a pool but it's a rink

From The City of Toronto Website 2014-15

For the skating schedule, go to Christie, then click on drop-in programs, then click on Skating.

Shinny

Pleasure-skating

Rink Diary 2014 - 2015

Test

2017 - 2018

Feb.17, 2018

11.30 am: a dad and three kids

Feb.16, 2018

7.45 pm, 14 people.

Feb.15, 2018

1.45 pm rink empty. 5.45 pm, 9 people.

Feb.9,2018

Today was the second Essex School visit with skate lending by CELOS. This time we were allowed to use the kitchen and the counter, and that worked much better. It snowed the whole afternoon and no one ever came to take the zamboni out of its new garage and clean the ice, but the kids had fun skating in the snow anyway.


four classes came from Essex School

skates lent out from the unused community kitchen

so much snow on the ice that kids used to skate aids to push it to the side

There were two staff people on site, and even though there were a lot of kids who needed help with skate lacing, the staff stayed in their office and chatted with each other. When asked whether their training actually prohibited them from helping when a class of little kids comes, they said they are allowed to help, but not required to do so as part of the job. They were helpful if a kid came to them to ask, but they made no effort to circulate in the change room to offer help. Very strange to see able-bodied paid staff idle while so much help is needed.

The staff said the woodstove is never used, and in fact it was very dusty. They weren't sure that it even works or how to "turn it on."


wood stove donated in 1998

cobwebs on the stovepipe
 
Feb.8, 2018

woodstove not used

Some more questions about the woodstove, to the city rinks supervisor:

1. who is tasked with giving the "thumbs up" that you say is needed to use the wood stove at Christie Rink?
2. When was the work order put in, to ask?
Please give me the timeline.
Is that also why the identical Dufferin Rink wood stove has not been cleared for use this whole rink season, despite a very cold winter?

Feb.7, 2018

A query about signage to 311 brought this message, from the citywide rink supervisor: "I have asked that they confirm the posted location schedule is on the windows." A follow-up question about the use of the wood stove brought this: "I was curious about the stove when I first saw it but was told there were issues with the use of it. Until we received a thumbs up on its safety I wouldn't be able to use it."

Feb.6, 2018

At 12.20 pm the rink is locked and there's no signage to tell when it opens. There are no skaters, either.


rink change room locked, no signage

no skaters, on a beautiful day
 
Jan.31, 2018

The first school visit trying out skate lending at Christie Rink.


lots of kids from Essex and Palmerston Schools

unused community kitchen

The unused kitchen has a counter with a roll-up barrier and a shelf that can be used for skate lending. However, the use of that room had not been cleared with management, so we had to put or skate bins on the ground out in the change room -- it was pretty chaotic. There's no scheduling person at the rink to book schools so that the classes don't all come at the same time. Plus the teachers have bring along scrounged equipment for those kids who don't have their own, and then there's the lacing of the skates, the finding of the helmets..... Even so, they did pretty well.

 
Jan.11, 2018

An item on Metro news, about Councillor Layton's proposal to ask City Council to ask the Parks Forestry and Recreation general manager to prepare a report on whether skate ending can happen at other city outdoor rinks besides the ones in Ward 18.

Jan.1, 2018

As promised on the schedule that's pinned up on the bulletin board, the rink change room is open. That's a first at this rink -- its change room/washrooms are often locked. Today there are two staff inside. Because of the cold, there are only 5 skaters, however.

Dec.28, 2017

holiday hockey skills class at minus 18, Dec.28, 2017

New Year's Day, 2018 - change room scheduled to be open, finally?

With the temperature at minus 18, a fully-booked holiday hockey class has only 6 kids in attendance, with three instructors. A man arrives on his bike, hockey stick tied along the frame. He gets on his phone to see where else might be a spot for shinny hockey.

There's no staff person inside, although parents watching their kids' class say that there was someone in the office, and then he left. There's a temporary bulletin board with holiday schedules -- good news! For the first time in years, it looks like the rink change area and washrooms will be open on New Year's Day.

Follow-up on skate lending: the city councillor for this rink, Councillor Layton, seems to have become the spokesperson for why no additional neighbourhood outdoor rinks can have skate lending.

His reasons (given to the West End Phoenix):

- Parks and Rec is underfunded, can't provide rink programming
- rink staff have to focus on safety, can't be distracted by skate lending
- he tried to get more funding by raising taxes but couldn't get support
- city staff "don't have the expertise to maintain skates so they don't become a liability" read more

In a Dec.27 tweet, Councillor Layton wrote "my responses to questions came from city staff."

Then he suggested that the issue might be taken to the Parks Committee: "after a more public examination, a discussion can often uncover solution we didn't know existed...."

 

Loaner skates at Wallace Rink, 2014
September 11, 2017

A letter was sent to the city councillor, offering a donation of a complete skate loan collection for this rink.

Our reasons:
* people love to borrow skates: newcomers, school classes, kids and youth who grew out of their skates
* we have 110 skates, 20 hockey sticks, 20 helmets to donate
* this kind of program has been done by city staff for 12 years at Dufferin Rink, 9 years at Wallace and Campbell -- lots of experienced staff, each one teach one
* staff often have time on their hands to lend skates and also to maintain skates
* the city has insurance that can cover this (the city is self-insured under $5 million anyway), but skate lending programs are rarely threatened with a claim if they do responsible skate maintenance.

Offer declined.

 

2016 - 2017

Nov.27, 2016

Nov.27 2016: 11.15 a.m. -- all ages shinny just ending

Nov.28 12.45 p.m. -- morning sun didn't melt the ice

There were very few benches inside but the building attendant said he's been asking for more.

Not many people there yet today, but all ages shinny was said to be enjoyable. Half a dozen fast players shared the ice with three kids, the big guys passing to the kids as well as dodging them.

Nov.26, 2017:

The rink is open.

Nov.22, 2016

The compressors are on and the rink looks clean except for one little pile of leaves.


 

Posts from earlier years

2015-2016

March 11, 2016

March 5, 2016: often empty even when not covered with water

The rink has been covered with water much of the past week or more. Almost no one comes to skate but it continues to be marked as open most of the time. The rink follows the March pattern -- even when it's not covered by water, most skaters stay away. So at 3.30 pm today, the rink finally closed for the season.

 
Jan.1 2016

As is so often the case at this rink, the rink change room was locked. On this busy holiday, a line of people had to sit on the ground to change from shoes to skates and back again. No washroom access either. Many other city rinks were fully open on New Year's Day -- why not Christie? The cost of putting in a minimum-wage building staff is very low.


lots of people skating

building locked

no ice maintenance either --but a fun snow pile on the ice
end of December

The header trench is closed and the fencing is gone. The ice seems to be pretty good despite the warm weather.

 
Dec.5 2015

The header trench is still open. The chemical toilet is is gone but the fences are up. But no sign of work being done. However the plant is running and the ice seems good. The building attendant was asked about the lack of any signage giving the rink hours and skating times, and he agreed it would be good to have something up, but said they didn't get anything yet. He also said that it was true the rink building was not open last weekend -- no one had been scheduled to work and besides, the ice had been poor.


header tench still open

snack bar closed

The city councillor, Mike Layton, sent word that he is planning their fifth annual Family Day skating party for February 15, and wants to arrange to get Randy's loaner skates for this event.

Nov.24 2015, 2 pm

fence and toilet stall for workers

Yesterday the compressors were on but today they were silent. There's a construction fence beside the rink, and the header trench is open. Troubles? No signs are posted, and the rink is supposed to open on Saturday.


open header trench, but no workers
Nov.28 2015

The rink did open, but at 4.30 the rink house is locked and there is no signage on the door telling anything about the schedule. Maybe Kim Brown, the recreation supervisor, didn't realize that she should staff the rink. Despite the nice design, there is a long history of poor service at this rink -- too bad.


4.30 Nov.28: rough ice, but it did open

no signage, and not open either

The header trench is still open but the rink is operating.

 

2014-2015

March 10, 12, 2015

This is one of the additional 12 rinks scheduled to stay open to March 22. The ice is pretty rough and most of the time there's no one skating.


March 10, 6 pm: girls playing hockey with a mom

March 12, 7.20 pm: rink door open but no skaters
 

A problem with the HOLIDAY HOURS: it appears on the city's rink information website/311 that almost all of the city's rinks will have their changerooms/washrooms locked on the three main holidays: Christmas Day, Boxing Day (yes!), and New Year's Day. You can skate on most of the rinks but you can't get your kids out of the cold to change their skates and you can't take them to the washroom. This is true for Christie Pits.

What's the message here -- "you should be drinking, not skating" -- ?

Dec.18 2014

Dec.18: a wrecked Pepsi vending machine

At 3 pm the rink change room is open -- two pleasure skaters out on the ice. The rink staff says that the building opens at 12 noon on weekdays, but he thinks that if a school class wanted to come, they could get the building unlocked. However, he says, not many school classes come, only occasionally.

There is a Pepsi vending machine against the wall, but it looks like it's been smashed in places -- there's no out-of-order sign but it seems like its dispensing days are over.

Dec.7 2014

Sunday afternoon caregiver-child skate

This rink opened on time and stayed open even throughout several days of warm weather a week ago. They have an unusual time slot on their schedule -- from 1 to 5 pm on Sundays it's "caregiver and child." In order to skate, you have to bring a child. It was well-attended and looked like a happy scene.

We were looking for the winter-time cafe, but the kitchen gate was locked and the building attendant said he hadn't heard that there would be a cafe at any point. Above the cafe there was an unusual painting of cartoon characters, perhaps to make the public area look friendly. However, the rink change room woodstove, donated by Dufferin Grove years ago for skaters to warm themselves, was blocked off by a desk and an office chair, an unimportant afterthought -- similar to other years.


community kitchen was shuttered as before

behind the stored furniture is the unused woodstove

cartoon characters with a bubble that says "we're glad you're here"- but no food and no fire

Rink Diary 2012 - 2013

See also: Editor's and Rink Users' blog

January 30 2013

rain on ice, no skaters

found object: back-to-back bench

only one bench in change room

Christie Rink has one of the brightest, largest rink change rooms of any of the city's 53 compressor-cooled outdoor rinks. The rink has a kitchen with a counter facing into the room -- but the kitchen has been locked for many years. It has a wood stove given by the friends of Dufferin Grove Park in 1998 -- but the stove is rarely used. This year there is no firewood, even if some skater should want to make a cozy fire on a cold day. The recreation supervisor says that any fire in the wood stove needs a dedicated staff person to ensure safety, and the staffing funds are not there.

Besides that, there's only one bench in the whole big room, perhaps to discourage youth from hanging out in the rink house. So there would be nowhere to sit near the stove, to warm up and swap shinny stories.

 

Diary 2011 - 2012,Diary 2010 - 2011, Diary 2009 - 2010, Diary 2008 - 2009, Diary 2007 - 2008, Diary 2006 - 2007, Diary 2005 - 2006, Diary 2004 - 2005, Diary 2003 - 2004

 

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