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Barbara Ann Scott/College Park Rink Profile

The original rink and rink house have been demolished and are being replaced by a different rink and field house.

Rink change area: There was a beautifully designed little change house with many windows, but badly neglected for years -- peeling paint, scuffed plastic window panes. There were lots of lockers, but many out of order. Clean bathrooms. The rink was often empty or with only a few skaters, despite the concentration of condos nearby.

That rink change room has been torn down (see diary below)'

Staff: No one.

Maintenance: Flying squad used to come with a zamboni, also the heated garage was sometimes used for overnight zamboni storage.

No ice


Comments about this rink: e-mail us at [email protected].

 

Rink Diary

Rink Diary

2017 - 2018

Nov.13, 2017

Nov.13, rink change room going up on left
 
Oct.15, 2017

Oct.15: view through the fence

On the city's College Park website, an announcement says that construction will finish in 2018.

"PFR's Landscape Architecture Unit in Planning, Design and Development Section of PFR is supervising the revitalization, which includes planning and design work from the MBTW Group/Watchorn Architect and Project for Public Spaces."


looking southwest
 

Earlier rink diaries:

2016 - 2017

There seem to be lots of problems with Aura, with a largely empty mall underneath, water leakage in the 70-story condo, and frequent elevator malfunction. Will this perhaps mean the developer won't be able to fulfil his commitments to building the new park? We asked Eric Stadnyk, the city's project coordinator. His answer: "College Park construction, including the skating trail, is planned to proceed in 2017. We expect it to be open for the '17/'18 skating season."

However, in December 2016 the project coordinator sent an update: "The park will begin construction as planned this spring; however, it will not be complete until spring/summer 2018. We expect it to be open for the '18/'19 skating season....Canderel is the developer who have hired landscape architect consultants (MBTW) to design and oversee the construction of the park, of which the rink and building are a part."

Meantime Canderel is being sued by the Aura condo corporation for $31 million for "negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract and construction deficiencies."

Excerpts from the April 6, 2016 budget committee minutes: The committee recommended that

City Council authorize deferral of cash flow from 2016 to 2017 within Parks, Forestry and Recreationís approved 2016 Capital Budget in the amount of $2.000 million for the College Park Artificial Ice Rink (AIR) sub-project in the Arena project, funded by $1.000 million in donations and $1.000 million from the Section 42 Alternate Rate (AR) Cash-in-lieu (CIL) for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213-4200658).

.....

At its meeting on February 17, 2016, City Council approved the 2016 Capital Budget for Parks, Forestry and Recreation through item EX12.2 (28b and 29). The College Park Artificial Ice Rink (AIR) sub-project was approved with a total project cost of $2.5 million, funded from $1.000 million from the Section 42 Alternate Rate Cash-in-lieu for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213- 4200658), $1.000 million in donations, and $0.500 million from South District Local Parkland Development Cash-in-lieu reserve fund (XR2209).

A major revitalization of College Park and its entire open space is being undertaken by a Developer responsible for the Aura development at Gerrard and Yonge Streets. The Developer has entered into Section 37 and 45(9) agreements with the City of Toronto and has agreed to provide $3.0 million in improvements to College Park, including public consultation, design services and construction. The project will be implemented by the Developer on behalf of, and under the supervision of Parks, Forestry and Recreation (PFR) Division.

The $3.0 million budget for improvements to College Park, to be delivered by the Developer, does not include a new artificial ice rink/skating trail and rink house components. Through the 2016 PF&R Capital Budget, Council approved $2.5 million Staff report for action on Adjustments to PF&Rís 2016 Capital Budget 4 sub-project of the Arena project for the artificial ice rink/skating trail and rink house components. Of the $2.5 million, $1.0 million is to be funded from the Section 42 Alternate Rate (AR) Cash-in-lieu (CIL) for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213-4200658), $0.500 million is coming from PF&R reserve funds, and $1.0 million from donations. To date, only $0.250 million of the $1.0 million donation has been identified from the Downtown Yonge BIA.

Due to related agreements needed for: 1) the leasing of adjacent lands to be added to College Park and 2) the re-waterproofing of the garage roof membrane underlying the entire park by the tenant of the garage, the project has been delayed from initial timelines. Although the existing park will be demolished in early 2016, the rest of 2016 will be dedicated to allowing the tenant of the underground garage to do their waterproofing. The park will then be re-built in 2017.

This report seeks authority from Council to defer $2.0 million in cash flow from 2016 to 2017, including $1.0 million in donations and $1.0 million from Section 42 AR CIL.

April 13, 2016

College Park with skate lending

CityRinks' editor Jutta Mason made a deputation to the City of Toronto Community Development and Recreation Committee. It included some photos of possible inexpensive improvements to existing rink buildings, and also a suggested way of including skate lending in the College Park renovation.

Sequel: Regarding the CELOS proposal for incorporating skate lending into the new version of this rink, the city was not interested.

2015 - 2016

After various local consultations and external design consultants, it has been announced that the current pond-shaped rink and rink house change room/warming room will be replaced with a skating trail and a "service building." From the city's information web page:

Canderel Stoneridge, the company responsible for the Aura development at Gerrard and Yonge Sts., has entered into Section 37 and 45(9) agreements with the City of Toronto. They have agreed to provide approximately $3M of major improvements to College Park, including public consultation, design services and construction. The project will be implemented by Canderel Stoneridge on behalf of, and under the supervision of Parks, Forestry & Recreation (PFR) Division.

Correspondence

E-mail from cityrinks, March 13, 2016, to Eric Hess, Parks, Forestry & Recreation, City of Toronto, Etobicoke Civic Centre

I just got Councillor Wong Tam's newsletter, announcing the new skating trail etc. at College Park. You are listed as a contact.

I'm part of a group of outdoor-rinks enthusiasts who run a non-municipal website about Toronto's compressor-cooled outdoor rinks (the site is now in its 12th year). I'd like to update our page for the Barbara Ann Scott rink at College Park.

I would appreciate it if you could answer the questions below:

  • Is the "service building" on the final drawing primarily a washroom/storage area for the Parks staff?
  • Is there any provision for skate lending or snacks?
  • The current change house is filled with light. The building in the new drawing appears to have very small windows. Is it still meant to provide a warming and observation area?

I appreciate any clarifications you can give me.

Response from Mr.Hess, March 14, 2016

The building will be a warm-up area with a family type of wash room facility to be used by the public.

There will be an area for park staff with a small office space and a Zamboni garage. The building will have a green roof as well. The entire front of the building where the public can gather will be entirely glass for visibility. Please see attached plans for more details.

The building size is appropriate to the available space and limitations within the park therefore space will not allow for a snack bar or a skate rental area.

Response from cityrinks, March 14, 2016

Thanks for your quick answer. I see that the building will have less public space than the current one, and only one washroom, guaranteeing lineups. The current building, with which I am familiar, would have had space for skate lending, but I agree, from your drawing, that the new one would not have such space.

I'm not sure why the current building needs to be replaced, but one way of expanding the public area in the new one is to remove the office. There is no need for the rink staff to be separated from the public -- a small desk in the corner would serve just as well (better).

The only reason to preserve a separate, lockable space would be to have a skate loan collection. Skate lending changes the constituency that can use the rink. The rink then becomes available to people who don't have skates e.g. newcomers, occasional skaters, people with kids who can't afford to replace their skates every year (but then kids' skates must be cheap to rent), and in the case of College Park, hotel guests from Gerrard Street. Adding skate rentals rounds out the staff's job and reduces their boredom, plus raising money to offset the operating costs. Harbourfront's Natrel Rink pays a large chunk of their operating costs that way. Even a poorly-run but much more affordable skate loan program like the one at Dufferin Rink raises over $5000 a month -- for $2 skate loans.

One possible skate-lending-shelf location, allowing room for another w/c to replace the current office space, would be the shared wall with the zamboni garage. Similarly to rink staff, zambonis don't need to be hidden behind an opaque wall. If the shared wall was glass, with a generous wicket window, there would be lots of room for the narrow skate-lending shelves along the garage side of the wall, and the many kids who admire the zamboni would not be disappointed if they missed the twice-a-shift ice cleaning -- they could still see their hero through the glass. :-)

Just for the record. I'll post our correspondence and the pdf you sent, thanks for helping me update.

 

2014 - 2015

November 11, 2014

The rink is still not demolished, nor is the prize-winning-design rink house gone. Only abandoned, with cracked concrete and weeds growing on the roof. What a waste.


Aura building seen from northwest rink entry

rubble in front of abandoned rink change house

weeds growing in eavestroughs
 

2013-2014

Tuesday November 12, 2013

The Aura condo tower is enormous, still with a crane on top. It dwarfs the rink, but the rink has not yet been torn out. However the City website marks it as closed.

This rink was a little jewel with lots of potential for a social space (e.g. if there had been skate lending and coffee/hot chocolate). A partnership with the Delta Chelsea Hotel across the street would have brought more skaters. But this rink was treated as an orphan from the time of amalgamation onward. Too bad.

Somebody must have complained about the look of the equipment-and-materials storage area that the rink became last year. This year there's a very nicely planted fall garden, and no more rickety chain link and piles of construction rubble. Who planted that garden? Surely not the Parks staff, who seem to have been told to neglect this site for years


the Aura condo towers over the rink

rink is still there

skating schedule still up

2012: equipment and supply storage for the condo company?

2013: storage yard replaced by attractive garden beds

2012-2013

January 30, 2013

This rink is closed because there's a giant condo being built to the south. The building is under construction but the bottom two floors are already running as a bed&bath store. There is no construction near enough to the rink to hurt anyone, but there's a small supply depot on the north side of the rink house -- rented by the condo company for convenient storage spot?


no ice, just garbage

the Aura condo rising up behind

equipment and supply storage for the condo company?

 

Diary 2011 - 2012 Diary 2010 - 2011, Diary 2009 - 2010, Diary 2008-2009, Diary 2007-2008, Diary 2006-2007, Diary 2005-2006, Diary 2004-2005, Diary 2003 - 2004

Views of the rink

Barbara Ann Scott Rink

a rink in the round


rink on a Saturday night

From The City of Toronto Website 2014-15

For the skating schedule, go to Barbara Ann Scott Rink page on the City website, then click on Skating.

Notes

This rink is a hidden jewel!

It's a beautifully designed, sunken rink in the round just off Yonge Street, behind offices and shopping, with landscaping around it. One of the last rinks to be built during the tenure of visionary Parks Commissioner Herb Pirk, this rink was mothballed all winter in 2002 because of a minor problem in the cooling system. Nobody complained! Very few people use the rink despite its proximity to Ryerson University and some major hotels. It's an orphan, waiting for adoption.

Rink Diary

Rink Diary

2017 - 2018

Nov.13, 2017

Nov.13, rink change room going up on left
 
Oct.15, 2017

Oct.15: view through the fence

On the city's College Park website, an announcement says that construction will finish in 2018.

"PFR's Landscape Architecture Unit in Planning, Design and Development Section of PFR is supervising the revitalization, which includes planning and design work from the MBTW Group/Watchorn Architect and Project for Public Spaces."


looking southwest
 

Earlier rink diaries:

2016 - 2017

There seem to be lots of problems with Aura, with a largely empty mall underneath, water leakage in the 70-story condo, and frequent elevator malfunction. Will this perhaps mean the developer won't be able to fulfil his commitments to building the new park? We asked Eric Stadnyk, the city's project coordinator. His answer: "College Park construction, including the skating trail, is planned to proceed in 2017. We expect it to be open for the '17/'18 skating season."

However, in December 2016 the project coordinator sent an update: "The park will begin construction as planned this spring; however, it will not be complete until spring/summer 2018. We expect it to be open for the '18/'19 skating season....Canderel is the developer who have hired landscape architect consultants (MBTW) to design and oversee the construction of the park, of which the rink and building are a part."

Meantime Canderel is being sued by the Aura condo corporation for $31 million for "negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract and construction deficiencies."

Excerpts from the April 6, 2016 budget committee minutes: The committee recommended that

City Council authorize deferral of cash flow from 2016 to 2017 within Parks, Forestry and Recreationís approved 2016 Capital Budget in the amount of $2.000 million for the College Park Artificial Ice Rink (AIR) sub-project in the Arena project, funded by $1.000 million in donations and $1.000 million from the Section 42 Alternate Rate (AR) Cash-in-lieu (CIL) for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213-4200658).

.....

At its meeting on February 17, 2016, City Council approved the 2016 Capital Budget for Parks, Forestry and Recreation through item EX12.2 (28b and 29). The College Park Artificial Ice Rink (AIR) sub-project was approved with a total project cost of $2.5 million, funded from $1.000 million from the Section 42 Alternate Rate Cash-in-lieu for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213- 4200658), $1.000 million in donations, and $0.500 million from South District Local Parkland Development Cash-in-lieu reserve fund (XR2209).

A major revitalization of College Park and its entire open space is being undertaken by a Developer responsible for the Aura development at Gerrard and Yonge Streets. The Developer has entered into Section 37 and 45(9) agreements with the City of Toronto and has agreed to provide $3.0 million in improvements to College Park, including public consultation, design services and construction. The project will be implemented by the Developer on behalf of, and under the supervision of Parks, Forestry and Recreation (PFR) Division.

The $3.0 million budget for improvements to College Park, to be delivered by the Developer, does not include a new artificial ice rink/skating trail and rink house components. Through the 2016 PF&R Capital Budget, Council approved $2.5 million Staff report for action on Adjustments to PF&Rís 2016 Capital Budget 4 sub-project of the Arena project for the artificial ice rink/skating trail and rink house components. Of the $2.5 million, $1.0 million is to be funded from the Section 42 Alternate Rate (AR) Cash-in-lieu (CIL) for 460 Yonge Street (XR2213-4200658), $0.500 million is coming from PF&R reserve funds, and $1.0 million from donations. To date, only $0.250 million of the $1.0 million donation has been identified from the Downtown Yonge BIA.

Due to related agreements needed for: 1) the leasing of adjacent lands to be added to College Park and 2) the re-waterproofing of the garage roof membrane underlying the entire park by the tenant of the garage, the project has been delayed from initial timelines. Although the existing park will be demolished in early 2016, the rest of 2016 will be dedicated to allowing the tenant of the underground garage to do their waterproofing. The park will then be re-built in 2017.

This report seeks authority from Council to defer $2.0 million in cash flow from 2016 to 2017, including $1.0 million in donations and $1.0 million from Section 42 AR CIL.

April 13, 2016

College Park with skate lending

CityRinks' editor Jutta Mason made a deputation to the City of Toronto Community Development and Recreation Committee. It included some photos of possible inexpensive improvements to existing rink buildings, and also a suggested way of including skate lending in the College Park renovation.

Sequel: Regarding the CELOS proposal for incorporating skate lending into the new version of this rink, the city was not interested.

2015 - 2016

After various local consultations and external design consultants, it has been announced that the current pond-shaped rink and rink house change room/warming room will be replaced with a skating trail and a "service building." From the city's information web page:

Canderel Stoneridge, the company responsible for the Aura development at Gerrard and Yonge Sts., has entered into Section 37 and 45(9) agreements with the City of Toronto. They have agreed to provide approximately $3M of major improvements to College Park, including public consultation, design services and construction. The project will be implemented by Canderel Stoneridge on behalf of, and under the supervision of Parks, Forestry & Recreation (PFR) Division.

Correspondence

E-mail from cityrinks, March 13, 2016, to Eric Hess, Parks, Forestry & Recreation, City of Toronto, Etobicoke Civic Centre

I just got Councillor Wong Tam's newsletter, announcing the new skating trail etc. at College Park. You are listed as a contact.

I'm part of a group of outdoor-rinks enthusiasts who run a non-municipal website about Toronto's compressor-cooled outdoor rinks (the site is now in its 12th year). I'd like to update our page for the Barbara Ann Scott rink at College Park.

I would appreciate it if you could answer the questions below:

  • Is the "service building" on the final drawing primarily a washroom/storage area for the Parks staff?
  • Is there any provision for skate lending or snacks?
  • The current change house is filled with light. The building in the new drawing appears to have very small windows. Is it still meant to provide a warming and observation area?

I appreciate any clarifications you can give me.

Response from Mr.Hess, March 14, 2016

The building will be a warm-up area with a family type of wash room facility to be used by the public.

There will be an area for park staff with a small office space and a Zamboni garage. The building will have a green roof as well. The entire front of the building where the public can gather will be entirely glass for visibility. Please see attached plans for more details.

The building size is appropriate to the available space and limitations within the park therefore space will not allow for a snack bar or a skate rental area.

Response from cityrinks, March 14, 2016

Thanks for your quick answer. I see that the building will have less public space than the current one, and only one washroom, guaranteeing lineups. The current building, with which I am familiar, would have had space for skate lending, but I agree, from your drawing, that the new one would not have such space.

I'm not sure why the current building needs to be replaced, but one way of expanding the public area in the new one is to remove the office. There is no need for the rink staff to be separated from the public -- a small desk in the corner would serve just as well (better).

The only reason to preserve a separate, lockable space would be to have a skate loan collection. Skate lending changes the constituency that can use the rink. The rink then becomes available to people who don't have skates e.g. newcomers, occasional skaters, people with kids who can't afford to replace their skates every year (but then kids' skates must be cheap to rent), and in the case of College Park, hotel guests from Gerrard Street. Adding skate rentals rounds out the staff's job and reduces their boredom, plus raising money to offset the operating costs. Harbourfront's Natrel Rink pays a large chunk of their operating costs that way. Even a poorly-run but much more affordable skate loan program like the one at Dufferin Rink raises over $5000 a month -- for $2 skate loans.

One possible skate-lending-shelf location, allowing room for another w/c to replace the current office space, would be the shared wall with the zamboni garage. Similarly to rink staff, zambonis don't need to be hidden behind an opaque wall. If the shared wall was glass, with a generous wicket window, there would be lots of room for the narrow skate-lending shelves along the garage side of the wall, and the many kids who admire the zamboni would not be disappointed if they missed the twice-a-shift ice cleaning -- they could still see their hero through the glass. :-)

Just for the record. I'll post our correspondence and the pdf you sent, thanks for helping me update.

 

2014 - 2015

November 11, 2014

The rink is still not demolished, nor is the prize-winning-design rink house gone. Only abandoned, with cracked concrete and weeds growing on the roof. What a waste.


Aura building seen from northwest rink entry

rubble in front of abandoned rink change house

weeds growing in eavestroughs
 

2013-2014

Tuesday November 12, 2013

The Aura condo tower is enormous, still with a crane on top. It dwarfs the rink, but the rink has not yet been torn out. However the City website marks it as closed.

This rink was a little jewel with lots of potential for a social space (e.g. if there had been skate lending and coffee/hot chocolate). A partnership with the Delta Chelsea Hotel across the street would have brought more skaters. But this rink was treated as an orphan from the time of amalgamation onward. Too bad.

Somebody must have complained about the look of the equipment-and-materials storage area that the rink became last year. This year there's a very nicely planted fall garden, and no more rickety chain link and piles of construction rubble. Who planted that garden? Surely not the Parks staff, who seem to have been told to neglect this site for years


the Aura condo towers over the rink

rink is still there

skating schedule still up

2012: equipment and supply storage for the condo company?

2013: storage yard replaced by attractive garden beds

2012-2013

January 30, 2013

This rink is closed because there's a giant condo being built to the south. The building is under construction but the bottom two floors are already running as a bed&bath store. There is no construction near enough to the rink to hurt anyone, but there's a small supply depot on the north side of the rink house -- rented by the condo company for convenient storage spot?


no ice, just garbage

the Aura condo rising up behind

equipment and supply storage for the condo company?

 

Diary 2011 - 2012 Diary 2010 - 2011, Diary 2009 - 2010, Diary 2008-2009, Diary 2007-2008, Diary 2006-2007, Diary 2005-2006, Diary 2004-2005, Diary 2003 - 2004

See also: Editor's and rink users' blog

 

Diary 2011 - 2012 Diary 2010 - 2011, Diary 2009 - 2010, Diary 2008-2009, Diary 2007-2008, Diary 2006-2007, Diary 2005-2006, Diary 2004-2005, Diary 2003 - 2004

 

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